Monday, September 15, 2008

Thoughts on the rankings...

Oklahoma jumping UGA in the polls is a JOKE. So they killed Washington over the weekend and a 7 point favorite Georgia beat South Carolina by 7. Washington SUCKS. Not one player on that team would be in the two deep on defense at South Carolina. Did you see the highlights all weekend from that game? WTF was that on defense. Lack of hustle. Loafing. Missed tackles after missed tackles. No heart. No pride. Washington is the bottom of the barrel in a pathetic league. I couldn't get over how bad their defense was. Watch that 65 yard touchdown by the tank #18 receiver for OU...should have been a 15 yard gain. Sure, it was a nice stiff arm, but NO WAY that goes for a score against any SEC or Big 12 team. They kept quitting on defense. I couldn't believe what I was watching. It was embarrassing. I know he is a lame duck already, but Willingham has completely lost this team. Those kids aren't even remotely trying. Central Michigan would destroy Washington. I'll give you 17 points and Washington against CMU and laugh all the way to the bank.

I know, I know, if Georgia keeps winning everything will take care of itself. Well, that's not my point. I'm sure we play for it all if we run the table. We have already gotten screwed in the polls early in the season, so who's to say the SEC won't if us and Big 12 champs are undefeated or a one loss team. 'Play better teams and you will be rewarded' is a crock right now because Washington would get ROUTED by South Carolina. It would only take 3 scores for South Carolina to beat Washington by 21. No chance they score on that South Carolina defense. With all those loafs and lack of hustle, I could see South Carolina beat UW like South Carolina's opener against NC State. Sure, it would be ugly to watch, but at the end of the day the old ball coach would have a 24 or 27 to nothing victory. Hypothetically, does an undefeated LSU jump to #2 if they beat us in a few weeks. By what has happened in the polls already this year, they better jump OU. What about the Auburn/LSU winner? What about the UGA/Bama winner? Just asking.

Personally I don't have a problem with USC being ranked #1. The problem I have is the fact that they jumped us after beating the worst team in one of the worst leagues in the country. Virginia would be middle of the road in the Southern Conference. Look at these numbers put together by Hamp. Virginia would lose to Georgia Southern. No doubt about it. They were up 3-0 with 7 mins to go at home against Richmond. Richmond. Virginia possibly wins 2 games this year. The fact that we got jumped for the Virginia win is laughable. Ohio State win maybe. Maybe. I mean, what has Ohio State done except get their doors blown off by every decent team they've played over the last couple years? Sure they beat Michigan every year, but my God, Charlie f'n Weis just beat Michigan. I can live with it though. It's just a shame that Ohio State had to get throttled by USC to lose credibility. I mean, has everyone forgotten how pathetic OSU is when the played the best in the SEC? The fact that media darling Ohio State had a chance to totally redeem themselves after the last couple years by beating USC is absurd. What a joke. And to answer your question...No, I don't think Ohio State would beat South Carolina at Williams-Brice. Hell, why should anyone think they would?

This just isn't a Georgia post either. I'm talking about whatever team comes out of the LSU, Georgia, Alabama or Florida group. I hope and pray Georgia or LSU gets USC. A peaking Tiger or Dawg team that wins the SEC would beat USC. I'm convinced. USC won't play another halfway decent team all year. Their conference just spent the weekend losing to UNLV, Maryland, BYU by 59, New Mexico, TCU and Baylor. The two teams in that league that were supposed to give USC a challege lost to UNLV and Maryland (who has a double digit loss to MTSU and beat Delaware by 7) . USC will walk, I mean walk through that league without even a challenge. Just like when they got beat by Vince Young's Texas team, they will not be prepared schedule-wise to beat the team that comes out of the SEC. It's sad too, because for as much success that Pete Carroll has had, and as good of a product as he's put on the field, you could argue that they have never been the best team in any year he's been in LA (LSU in '03, Auburn in '04 and Texas in '05).

Go ahead and flame away. I really don't care. Would a USC or Oklahoma beat Georgia? Possibly. I'm not convinced Georgia is the best in the SEC yet. Whoever wins the SEC won't lose to those two teams though.

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Nail meet head, thats about the way I see it

duvydawg said...

Great post Bop. Chokelahoma will fall on their sword like they always do. Think about some of their bowl appearances lately. They got housed by USC a few years ago for the Natl title, two years ago lost to a Boise team that UGA had polished off in dominating fashion the year before and last year...what was that? Have you seen WVU lately? Did Steve Slation really mean that much to them when they played Chokelahoma? I digress. If the dawgs win out (tough to do, but why not us?) they will be in the game. Chokelahoma...what a joke. By the way CMR is 6-1 in bowl games

A Free Man said...

I disagree with you, but not on strength of schedule or any of the arguments that you've made. I think it's good that we've gotten dropped because maybe it will make some of our boys wake the hell up. We know either that the 'Cocks are a sub-par team or Vandy is better than usual and if we don't shape up we're going to get smoked and soon. So maybe slipping in the polls is what we need to fire up our D-backs, and special teams, and O line, etc.

Anonymous said...

CMR is 5-2 in bowl games,we lost to BC in the music city bowl an of course gave that gift to WV

duvydawg said...

OOps, I didn't count BC because it was in the crappy Music City Bowl. Thanks Annony, you da man!

Schlitz said...

I realize OU may have played a sorry Washington squad, but they've given me no reason to think their not a top 2 team. That said, I did watch the OU/Wash game and Bradford can flat out throw the ball. Time will tell, but I'm not gonna crap on OU until they give me something to crap about. Speaking of previous years experiences doesn't cut it for the Schlitz. Right now, they're playing some impressive ball and I'd be hesitant to favor anyone over them in a head to head match.

I am perplexed with this: UGA matches the line the experts predict against SC and they fall? To me that's a statement of success, not digress. If you're an analyst with any sense of SEC pride and comprehend the competitiveness in rivalries, there's no way you pentalize UGA for a win of that caliber. Then again, who said the analysts have any sense...

Anonymous said...

As a complete outsider to the SEC I won't argue that UGA shouldn't be #3 after starting #1. I completely respect the talent of the SEC and whoever becomes its champion. However, the condoms of USC lost to Texas at the very end, after blowing a 4th and inches, to a superhuman performance by Vince Young. If you look at their track record vs. the SEC since Pete Carrol took over it is flawless. Beating Auburn in 02' and 03' (23-0) and destroying Arkansas 70-17 in 05' and 50-14 in 06'. You never know what happens when you put on the helmets and get inside the lines as everyone knows. The thing that scares me, especially as a ND fan (insert joke here), is that this USC team has w/out question the most talent of any team Pete has put on a field.
Love the blog.... Go Irish!!

duvydawg said...

I'm throwing a flag, Notre Dame was referrenced, that makes the last comment by Annonymous (err, W.P.) null and void.

M said...

I jumped the gun and posted my rant on this topic on the previous post. I've calmed myself down a bit. Lotta truth in here... Oklahoma definitely does not suck, but no matter what your opinion on the subject may be I don't really feel like you can justify a reason for UGA to fall in this situation.

But screw it, you know it's going to happen. This happens to someone every year. We're 3-0 and on track to buck the system. I humbly implore the rest of our schedule to start underestimating.
Right now it's darling USC and Oklahoma's game to lose, and despite the rest of their schedules I feel pretty good about that.

F the polls we've got a game to win in 5 days.

Bop said...

I appreciate your comments Irish. As much as I respect USC, those SEC wins were against a 5 and 4 loss Auburn team (even $hitty little ga tech destroyed that '03 Auburn team) and also a 7 and 4 loss Arkansas team (a program who has never seriously challenged for a league title). Carroll's record vs the SEC is against nothing close to the class of the league.

Again my main point is that USC (a great team and possibly the best) jumped UGA after beating one of the 10 worst D-1 teams in the country. Oklahoma (a great team also) jumped UGA when they beat a HORRIBLE Washington team the same week UGA goes to Williams-Brice and beats one of the 5 or so best defenses in the land by the amount of points the experts expected them to.

Thanks for visiting and for the kind words about C&C. Your thoughts will definitely bring a lot to C&C. *Please don't take anything said personal regarding that fraud of a coach your beloved Irish have employed...there will be lots said I assure you.

Yeah M, your little rant got me worked up and set me off. You are right that all that matters is the game in 5 days.

I'm starting to think a stream of consciousness opinion post every so often is good for the soul though...whether the opinions are right or wrong.

dean said...

Be prepared for us to drop again next week. If (or when) UF blows out UT we will get jumped by UF. Especially if we don't beat ASU convincingly.

Lynn said...

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU START AT #1, WIN YOUR FIRST 3 GAMES AND END UP #3. THAT MAKES NO SENSE!!

WHO IS BEING POLLED? I WASN'T. WERE YOU? THIS TOTALLY SUCKS!!

GO DAWGS!

LYNN

Schlitz said...

Dean
Regarding a UF win over Tenn.
Pretty funny, very sad, but unfortunately all too true. I hadn't thought about it, but you're right. If UF wins handily they may very well leapfrog UGA in the polls (especially since ASU will now be seen as a mediocre win). Man would that cause some outrage!

Interesting note on that:
UF is favored by 7.5 over Tenn
UGA is favored by 7 over ASU
So technically if things play out as predicted, there's no way UF jumps UGA, right... We'll see.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter if UF jumps UGA. All that matters is that UGA beats UF.

RedCrake said...

The beauty of USC and OU's "impressive wins" over Virginia and Washington respectively is that when those teams go in the toilet so does the SOS of those two teams (especially USC since the Pac-10 seems ready to crap the bed as a conference).

Mark my words... If USC, UGA, and OU are all undefeated when the BCS rankings come out (computers included), UGA is at least #2.

Caniac Dawg said...

The deal with the current rankings is just for the commentators. The rankings really mean nothing right now. It is great that we are ranked high, but no one has proven anything as of yet. Everyone has conference play and plenty of opportunities to pass or fail. The Dawgs just need to win...not by 21+ points every week, but win. We win with this schedule and we're fine. I guarantee you that SC or OU will have an ugly win or even a loss somewhere this season that will change all the experts view on the polls. Right now the polls are liquid as this season's "real" teams prove themselves week in, week out. We ALWAYS struggle with Carolina, for whatever reason, but that doesn't mean we are doomed for a struggle all season. Actually, recent history has proven the opposite. UGA has had great years under Richt with ugly wins over Carolina. OU and SC are great teams, no doubt, but they will not have the same opportunity to prove their mettle throughout the season as the Dawgs.

GO DAWGS!

JJ said...

I'm surprised at the arguments against UGA dropping here, considering that they actually dropped from #1 to #3 in the only poll that really matters at this point (the C&C Top 25.) Could it be that one rogue voter skewed the numbers?